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I’ve been reading over the posts here on this tribe and was so happy to come across it.
I’m trying to make a decision about whether I should go back to school to study biochemistry or neuroscience. I already have a degree from the Pasadena Art Center and am working as a photographer. I enjoy what I do, but if I feel I may find myself more satisfied with a career in science instead of design. Also, I just love to study. When I made the decision to be a photographer, I believed I would just want to finish school as quickly as possible and that wasn’t the case. Now, I would be pleased to begin on another educational/career path that would last many years.
So my questions are, what is like working as a scientist in these or similar fields? Is it rewarding? Do you feel that it’s possible to make a contribution that you can really measure and feel rewarded for? Are some fields better then others to work in? Am I too old for this change? I’m 30 yrs.
I know that there are many factors that play into the financial aspects of working as a scientist, but how can I go about researching this? Where can I find out what the income is for those working in these fields?
I appreciate any help that might be offered.
I’m trying to make a decision about whether I should go back to school to study biochemistry or neuroscience. I already have a degree from the Pasadena Art Center and am working as a photographer. I enjoy what I do, but if I feel I may find myself more satisfied with a career in science instead of design. Also, I just love to study. When I made the decision to be a photographer, I believed I would just want to finish school as quickly as possible and that wasn’t the case. Now, I would be pleased to begin on another educational/career path that would last many years.
So my questions are, what is like working as a scientist in these or similar fields? Is it rewarding? Do you feel that it’s possible to make a contribution that you can really measure and feel rewarded for? Are some fields better then others to work in? Am I too old for this change? I’m 30 yrs.
I know that there are many factors that play into the financial aspects of working as a scientist, but how can I go about researching this? Where can I find out what the income is for those working in these fields?
I appreciate any help that might be offered.
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Re: Questions about careers in science
Sat, January 15, 2005 - 2:02 PMScience at higher levels is about much more than studying. Graduate school is very different than undergrad. Grades don't matter anymore, and some programs you don't really take many classes at all. You learn through independent reading of primary literature and through people you meet, as well as some classes and seminars of course.
Writing becomes supreme for academic scientists.
Also incredibly important is being able to portray confidence and work independently and be able to weather large degrees of isolation. The people who do the best (in my experience) are consumed by what they study and don't require a lot of feedback about how they are doing. That can be really tough for a lot of people--especially women.
While you get a Ph.D. which on average (in the U.S.) is upward of 6 years, that is 6 years that you will not be benefitting economically. IN science you will receive a stipend or some other sort of fellowship, at least most people do to some extent. But that will be enough to live on. And you are not investing in a retirement plan.
To then get a job as an academic professor requires 2-3 years of post-doc experience after your Ph.D. still making very little money, unless you are a superstar meaning you get a paper in Science or Nature while in grad school. You don't see money until you're an academic scientist.
If you truly love a topic of study, then a Ph.D. will be worth it. Staying in an area that has broader implications (like biochemistry or immunology or genetics for example) also means that you can leave academia and go into industry or government.
A Ph.D. is a long, hard investment. If it's something you love and can't get enough, you may be a good candidate.
Luckily, in the U.S. you probably are not too old. You will be older than a lot of your classmates. But we have a fairly liberal education system, and people who are older often do even better because they are more focused. There are speciic fellowships for re-entry students, specifically women. Check out Awis.org (assoc. for women in science) and some others.
okay...back to work for me..
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Re: Questions about careers in science
Thu, January 20, 2005 - 9:46 AMIf you want to find out how much biochemists or neuroscientists earn, go to the web sites of their professional organizations. I don't know what they are, but you can probably find them pretty easily. One that may be useful for you is the chemistry organization, the American Chemical Society (ACS). They'll have resources on their site about how much people with degrees in chemistry-related fields make, and statistics for women in the field, how long a PhD takes, etc.
30 years is definitely not too old. I've known people who finished their PhDs in their mid to late 30's, so you're fine in that respect. -
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Re: Questions about careers in science
Sat, March 5, 2005 - 5:16 AMI'm 33 and am finishing a second bachelor's this semester. I'm beginning my PhD this fall so I don't expect to even start my career until I'm nearly 40. I'm a little concerned but not too much. There are plenty of women who return to school after raising a family (though that wasn't my path). We're changing the timeframes of the academic world by necessity. And collaboration is part of that. It's not necessarily accurate that isolation is something you have to put up with in graduate school. For some more information read this article:
How to Survive, Thrive, and Learn Science in Graduate School:
One Student’s Perspective by Victoria Mundy Bhavsar
Published in J. Nat. Resour. Life Sci. Educ. 34:36–39 (2005).
www.JNRLSE.org © American Society of Agronomy
A quote: "...collaboration and cooperation is imperative in science. If James Watson and Francis Crick had not worked together, Rosalind Franklin’s group might have won the race to elucidate the structure of DNA (Watson, 1968; Sayre, 1975)."
Sigma Delta Epsilon and the National Science Foundation would be good places to start if you are looking for more information about women in science. -
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Re: Questions about careers in science
Mon, March 7, 2005 - 9:52 PMI started working on my PhD at age 45 and finished at 50. I am still paying on my student loans! Age really isn't the issue. Interest and desire are the most important factors. Life is much too short to spend it on something you don't love or to put off doing something you really want. Just have fun!
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